Poverty research needs you!

[bill]

Nae good attacking wi' nae ammunition

[ionnsaigh]

Aye Bill - the pen and the sword, one dosnt exclude the other - me old china.

[bill]

China ?Watched a program last night about POOR people being evicted from their houses to make way for the new buildings associated to the Olympics

[Sheik Yir Erse]

So it was the shareholders who built the pit head - installed the lifts - conveyor belts etc.. The design - manufacture and installation was carried out by highly skilled workers - your posts discredits these workers.

The shareholders provide the MEANS for all of this to happen. No shareholders = no jobs. If you can deal with that part of disussion, which I would have thought was the obvious point being made.

This conversation is the 'morally corrupt' v's the ideologically bankrupt.

Glad to have you back tho

Will you come to my funeral?

I won't be digging my own grave, I'll obvioulsy have a team of exploited peasants to do that for me

[ionnsaigh]

Sheik,

[Sweltered]

Other than the distant water trawlers of the last century, fishermen tend to be paid under a share system, which normally goes - half the profit to the "boat" (repairs etc) the other half is shared between the skipper and crew. The skipper is usually often the owner or major shreholder in the vessel, and is paid 1.5 shares. In Orkney and SHetland it is very common for the crew to be shareholders in the boat, so , in essence, yir wrang!!

[ionnsaigh]

Sweltered, - I stand corrected - I was wrong in that instance sorry.

[bill]

Aye your not often right,but you were wrong again

[Sweltered]

I can retire now!!!!

[ionnsaigh]

Sweltered,
Retirement for many people only changes the colour of the cheque.

[bill]

Okay, after reading all the comments, especially from Ionns,about the plight of the worlds poor I have decided to get up off my backside and do something about it.

I read in the paper that Tenerife bar staff are paid miserly wages, and are living below the poverty line. Therefore I have decided to go and investigate,interview staff and owners.I have decided it is about time I put something back instead of taking all the time.

Accompanied by my wife we shall fly out to Tenerife the 3rd week of January,and shall endevour to visit as many bars as is possible, and interview said bar staff.

I know I will not change the way things are in Tenerife,but possibly the odd Euro tip here and there might make a difference.

I shall report my findings on my return.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

This sounds like a very altruistic and overwhelming endeavor, and I think you will need a very capable assistant. I will offer my services for a very humble wage of $2000. As beer drinking and travelling from pub to pub will be an on-the-job requirement, of course that will be reimbursed? I'm sure the expense will be able to be written off as business expenses, but more than that, I will get a very warm and fuzzy feeling from knowing I am helping humanity.

You can contact me at my home address: www.kintyreforum.com.

(packing as we speak!)

[ionnsaigh]

Well Bon voyage you decadent rascals - hope you have a happy time exploiting the natives. I suggest however that - judging by both of your shallow opinions - regarding the unequal distribution of wealth - that a devils advocate be included - for balance - think of anyone ?

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Exploiting?? Au contraire!! We are HELPing! We would be the one's exploited, having to suffer multiple pints of beer and maybe the prospect of being taken advantage of (yessssssss!).. errr.. sorry.. delete that... What I meant to say is, we will try our best to make sure both the staff and the beer drinkers are taken advantage of equally, this is an unbiased investigation.

We will definitely need a devil's advocate. I carry my own demons with me, and god only knows what trouble they'll get into..

(back to the thread)

[bill]

Thanks for your offer of assistance Bobbie,but as already stated my wife will be accompanying me on this rigorous assignment.Hopefully we will be able to visit many of the establishments,starting with "The Hole in the Wall" "Blaydon Races""The Jag""The Dubliner" to mention but a few.