Brothers And Sisters Of The Red Death

[bill]

Gone full circle...

Vendetta Red's album "Sisters of the Red Death" track 5 " A Joyless Euphoria"

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I don't find the hyphens that annoying, but the bits in between them confuse the hell out of me.

[jock the boat]

Gone full circle...

Vendetta Red's album "Sisters of the Red Death" track 5 " A Joyless Euphoria"

You googled it . It now is all your business.
PS A Joyless Euphoria is actually track 12. In lieu of dead brides is number 5 but im not pedantic hahahaha

[ionnsaigh]

hugh.

Communism and Capitalism are two diametrically opposed ideologies. Each are mutually exclusive and yet dependent on the other , in the course of their development. Capitalism replaced Feudalism - Bourgeoisie replaced Aristocracy . Communism will replace Capitalism - Proletariat will replace Bourgeoisie so on and so on. Each force contains the seed of it's own destruction or development. You point to my implying that " capitalist couldn't be atheist " . Strictly speaking this is false, as neither is in a complete contradictory relationship. So on the surface it seems that I used the term wrongly. However If I could be permitted to refer back to my point , and the overt emphasis on the terms me and I.

The ruling elite , be it feudal lords or the capitalist barons of industry . Have ruthlessly propagated religion as a means of control and subjugation. By all accounts this has worked extremely well. Predestination plays a vital role in the apparent reluctance of the oppressed masses, to right a wrong, chiefly the unequal distribution of wealth, it's production and consumption. The supernatural belief in any sort of afterlife, being rewarded in the kingdom of heaven , or forever burn in the fires of hell. The pie in the sky when you die mentality , has been used ruthlessly against the people,very successfully. In this context I cast doubt on the creditability of a so called atheist capitalist. Admittedly they are not two ends of the same thing.

"any thinking person" generalise them into faction or group.
The forming of groups of similar characteristics, is a completely natural form of development . At times in order to form an opinion, then one has to classify various animals plants stars,you name it, we do it. It's what makes an elephant an elephant, a slave a slave.

" In a soldiers stance "
It perhaps identifies the inherent contradictory nature of all things, in the course of their development. Others can dig my grave, as I will dig theirs.
Without fear of contradiction.

[general jack o'niell]

you'd need to believe in an afterlife just to have time to read some of that stuff, sadly i don't- so- i can-t, hence i won't, read it that is- understanding it would be an entirely different matter-or would it?

is that tapping on my window the rain? or is it my spirit guide-beckoning me outside, to play -with paper boats in the flooding gutters?

yes- it is the story of my life, while others seek redemption or approval from a higher power- i'm sitting in the gutter in the p!shing rain, playing with paper boats

[jock the boat]

playing with paper boats

i new u loved me really

[general jack o'niell]

i said paper boats, not paper tigers, oh GOD!!!!! that'll set insane off on another "tack" and i don't mean david niven films!!!!

[bill]

And now that this curse is in my blood,
A time of redemption has begun.
A song for the ages silent and sweet.
The voice of forever singing through me

[hugh]

Yep. It's all as clear as a Zach Davidson lyric. Antagonistically contradicting isms all running about at random and clattering into each other in
no partiicular order. I had no idea the world was so mechanical. Some day I'm going to dig out that Book of Revelations thingy and start sticking
some hyphens in it, wring out its true meaning. But right now I'm going for a lie down 'cos my brain's sore.

Interesting post, Jock. So good you did it twice?

[The Elusive Mr D.]

I've just checked two different dictionaries to find that athiesm is "the belief that there is no god".

But that does not mean the same as being antitheistic , does it

[A Horse called Juan Face]

yes it is

theism means belief in god(s) ie monotheism, polytheism
anti theism therefore anti belief in god/deities

anti belief in god = the believe that there is no god

pretty much the same, or at least similar enough that there should be no dissention as to exact meanings
Websters defines an antitheist as "a disbeliever in god". I suppose there is a slight argument that one could be defined as being against the whole concept rather than just a belief but at heart both are very very similar.

[general jack o'niell]

i don't believe horse exists, i think someone made him up!!!

does that make me a horstheist? or is that camilla?

don't bother with the "no, it makes you a horstheisassth"

[A Horse called Juan Face]

I don't believe in energy or gates

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Communism and Capitalism are two diametrically opposed ideologies. .

Communism is for saints and capitalism is for sinners. Since we're all sinners, communism will always fail.

[ionnsaigh]

Yep. It's all as clear as a Zach Davidson lyric. Antagonistically contradicting isms all running about at random and clattering into each other in
no partiicular order. I had no idea the world was so mechanical. Some day I'm going to dig out that Book of Revelations thingy and start sticking
some hyphens in it, wring out its true meaning. But right now I'm going for a lie down 'cos my brain's sore.

Interesting post, Jock. So good you did it twice?

hugh, antagonistic contradictions - principally your rather bleak interpretation of them - for example the terms running random clattering into each other - infers chaos. A world of random play where no evolutionary development takes place - within the natural order of things - a mere development by accident or chance .
As human beings we have a unique ability to analyse - chiefly thanks to a bigger brain capacity - larger than your average chimp. In order to grasp any given set of given circumstances - we compare like with like . To reach a greater understanding we will undoubtedly break things down . Supernatural descriptions must use natural description - to achieve any possibility of understanding - In terms of mechanical outlook - it is far more easier to grasp - than the nettle of heaven and hell. It reminded me of the Christian description of god as a watchmaker.
The book of revelations - I suspect - emerges from old testament - I prefer First Testament - no matter .
However - and this is merely guess work - and I could be proved - easily wrong . I could never entertain this dribble. However it remains an iconic reminder of human ignorance - one that binds - to enshrine the words of the mentally ill. The dreams of madmen or women and children - only serves to feed and nurture this false belief. Supernaturalism's influence remains a strong phenomenon - The established Church continues to lose ground however - so there's hope for us all yet .
PS hope your brain is feeling better