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[Annie]

What is going on over there???

http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Victory-for-campaigners-as-fishing.3695677.jp

[Reidiboy]

Of course it is, why wouldnt it be??????

[Annie]

Just wondering how the community was feeling about it!

[Sweltered]

Got to laugh at this, this Garden of Eden is within sight of where the Glasgow $hite boat dumps the "solids". If I had a pound for every condom, "sanitary product" or part there of, that I saw floating past while towing up and down behind the Holy Isle, I'd be a very rich man. Not to mention the lumps of cordite, ammunition etc that pollutes the seab bed there.

Are these the same people who dumped the vehicles in the water in lamlash to stop the fishing? Did the remove all the oil, petrol etc first? Probably still leaking into the "Garden of Eden"

What next the site of Dounreay being an SSSI?

[general jack o'niell]

got to laugh about this one, especially all the different fish that used to be so prolific in the loch, the south end that they have made a reserve has never been fished, for anything, not fish, clams, queenies, prawns, nothing, never has. the north end no take zone has in the past been fished for maybe a week or two a year for queenies, the odd clammer might tow up and down the north end of the loch, on the clyde side of the bouy.

this is complete sh!te by feckin white settlers, the local fish shop saying he had to get his supplies from the glasgow market now, what crap, theres never been a local supply unless its some auld guy in a punt with a rod. if the loch has had its ecology disturbed its by the locals, they dumped many a car, tractor, washing machine etc etc in the loch in the seventies to stop the campbeltown "pirates" towing in the loch for queenies, the part of the loch that was fished was roughly about the size of our own loch from the war memorial to the sailing club, thats it, maybe 10% of the loch, a couple of tracks in and back out to the bouy.

i know, i was a "pirate" and we were unrecognisable due to the fact that we "hide" our boat names and numbers by cunningly stringing tyres down the side of the boats, or fenders as we preferred to call them, all CN boats of the time being the same length, the same shape, built at the same yard and all painted the same colour, NOT!!!!!!

it was a doze of crap then, its a bigger more dangerous doze of crap now, they seem to forget the tankers and oilrigs that were laid up in the loch years ago, i suppose they didn't affect the ecology of the area?

as sweltered rightly says, the sh1te boat comesw down the clyde and dumps its load just two miles from the loch, theres also the old munitions dumping ground too, as he says, if we had a pound for every "rubber johnny" and "fanny pad" that we saw floating by on the tide on a calm day, well i'd certainly be richer, i used to love the smell of cordite in the morning, the back of the holy isle being a favourite fishing haunt of mine. we were after prawns, fish were always scarce, if you did get a fish it was usually seasonal, small hake or haddies and you would have caught them south of the loch near pladda.

the next thing is they'll want it extended to all the way round the island, lets see how that goes down in carradale, no more "north of the boom" no more towin up thru blackwater and machrie bay, no more shooting at the "henhooses" after coming out of the loch after a night at a bouy. one of the saddest days of my life involved a night at a bouy in lamlash loch, one of the scariest too, leaving a mooring to steam across the bennan to CN in a howling gale of southerly wind on a friday morning

[Annie]

I knew that would get ye going there General! Thanks for your very well put opinion, and the same to Sweltered too!

[Mr.Everready]

Guess who lives where ?

condom, "sanitary product"

"rubber johnny" and "fanny pad"

[Sweltered]

I was merely trying to be polite

[Annie]

[general jack o'niell]

all the complaints about the state of our loch are nothing compared to the detritous thats floating about out there, funny that it was only fishing that spoiled their little eden, i'm sure plenty gets washed ashore on the beach at brodick and in the loch. not that they shouldn't be able to present the area at its best, it looks magnificent as you drive thru lamlash and down thru whiting bay, funny thing is, the only thing spoiling the view is the fishfarm cages at the south end of the loch in the new "reserve" its amazing that this has had no effect on the marine life in lamlash when its been blamed for killing off all marine life in every other sea loch in scotland, but then its probably owned by a local and therefor wouldn't be blamed, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if the owners are heavily involved this whole thing, to hell with the liveliehood of the few clyde boats that ever fish there, and it is a few, a handleful at most, maybe none at all in recent years, keep them well away from the cages, that'll work, and what if they discover that the marine life doesn't return? what gets blamed then? global warming?