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Postby general jack o'niell » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:27 pm

you know wot to do?, if you see the culprit, just pick it up with a shovel, follow them home, knock on the door and tell them they've forgotten something, then deposit contents of shovel on the doorstep, they should hopefully get the message
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Postby jdcarra » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:39 am

elainemck wrote:If there is a dog warden/fines for dog fouling - come up Knockscalbert Way (Spam Valley ;)) as I'm continually having to pick up dog mess from in front of my house due to inconsiderate dog owners. It's just not nice!

Katfer wrote:Tomaig Road is just as bad i think. Some dog owners seem to think it's ok to let their dog poo in our driveway and on the pavement outside our house. I also see many dog owners who walk up past our house with poo bags, pick up their dog poo and then chuck the filled poo bag in the grass verge - what was the point of picking up the poo in the first place??




Will pass on your concerns as one of the dog wardens lives in the village of Carradale. The dog owners in the village who do pick up their pets leftovers are fed up also.

I must speak on behalf of the wardens, they have a large area to patrol, Kintyre and the Islands and they are doing their best with what resources they have, two people. They have also tried varies decoy's, like going out at teatime with their own dogs to try and catch the culprits. Not an easy task as the old saying, cannot be in two places at once. Time for more recruitment i would suggest.

If members of the public do see dog owners dogs fouling and do not clear up, take note of their name and pass it on to the warden who will give them a visit.
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Postby general jack o'niell » Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:31 pm

and what will this visit achieve? your dog was seen to blah blah, you failed to blah blah, no it didn't, end of visit, the poor warden can't do jack sh!t or should that be jack russell sh!t without evidence, all right for you with your camera, i witnessed a well known, well respected local allow his dog to foul and then walk off the other day, so i said " i hope you intend to pick that up?" with that he about turned, walked back to his car, got a bag and said he had intended to lift it, funny that he was going to head in the opposite direction if i hadn't spoken to him. would my word have been good enough? i don't think so, i would have needed at least a second witness or video footage before anything was done, and i don't mean to denegrate the wardens, they have my full support, they can't be everywhere at the same timne as you say.
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Postby elainemck » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:34 pm

I understand the dog wardens have a lot of miles to cover, my grudge is really with the owners themselves. It's just disgusting and annoying :evil:
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Postby witchnettle » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:59 pm

does anyone have the phone number of the carradale dog warden at hand?
on the wee path outside my door we have had fresh dog poo dropped regularly every other day for the last few weeks, and when you have to dodge puddles on that path too, i think i will have to get my stilts out to walk to the car.
And i am soooo fed up with it, so time has come to get in the big guns.
so if anyone can help that would be great,
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Postby general jack o'niell » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:51 pm

excellent suggestion, i'd like to know how to get in touch too, i'm glad i'm not a lone nutter and others are as annoyed about this as me, some don't understand why i can get so worked up about it but its just an extreme act of laziness and selfishness, the dog doesn't know any better, but it can be trained to defecate in the same place, dogs are creatures of habit, its not hard to train a dog, myy brother in law has a jack russell pup and it behaves as any pup will, it is a friendly wee dog and very excitable, but when he comes into my house and runs about jumping up and trying to lick everybody one word from me and he sits at my feet, he'll lie down when i tell him, roll over and stay, it took me ten minutes to teach him to answer these commands, does he do the same for anyone else? no, but thats because they give him too much attention, i ignore him and don't even look at him, he's bright enough to know that he won't get praise unless he calms down and sits, then he gets praise, ok so he then jumps up and down like a bloody jack russell in a box but he's still very young and his owner has trained him to do his business at the same times every day, in the same place and where its easy to clear up after him. every dog owner can do this, its just laziness to do otherwise.
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Postby jdcarra » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:17 am

witchnettle wrote:does anyone have the phone number of the carradale dog warden at hand?
on the wee path outside my door we have had fresh dog poo dropped regularly every other day for the last few weeks, and when you have to dodge puddles on that path too, i think i will have to get my stilts out to walk to the car.
And i am soooo fed up with it, so time has come to get in the big guns.
so if anyone can help that would be great,
thanks x


Contact Mary Stewart (Environment Warden)

mary.stewart@argyll-bute.gov.uk

Operational Services
Manse Brae
Lochgilphead
Argyll
PA31 8RD
01546 604666

or telephone the Campbeltown Office on 01586 55900.
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Postby Beachcomber » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:40 am

jdcarra wrote:Will pass on your concerns as one of the dog wardens lives in the village of Carradale. The dog owners in the village who do pick up their pets leftovers are fed up also.

By far the majority of dog walkers using the path between the Lodge and Network Centre are making good use of the dog bins and bag dispensers, and in doing so have returned what was once a perilously poo-paved perambulation back into a very pleasant countryside walk, but there are still one or two persistent offenders.

Given that you have to walk past both a bin and a free bag dispenser whichever end of this walk you enter or leave by, it can only be bone idleness or cussedness why people still allow their dogs to foul this lovely walk.

I've noticed that one or two people who have used a bag to clear up after their dog have then caste it into the undergrowth, or sat it neatly a-top one of the fence posts, instead of putting it in the bin. Whilst both bags and contents are 100% bio-degradable it surely isn't that much trouble to them to pocket it until they get to a bin? Perhaps they're assuming the pixies will do it for them?
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Postby witchnettle » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:44 am

jdcarra wrote:
witchnettle wrote:does anyone have the phone number of the carradale dog warden at hand?
on the wee path outside my door we have had fresh dog poo dropped regularly every other day for the last few weeks, and when you have to dodge puddles on that path too, i think i will have to get my stilts out to walk to the car.
And i am soooo fed up with it, so time has come to get in the big guns.
so if anyone can help that would be great,
thanks x


Contact Mary Stewart (Environment Warden)

mary.stewart@argyll-bute.gov.uk

Operational Services
Manse Brae
Lochgilphead
Argyll
PA31 8RD
01546 604666

or telephone the Campbeltown Office on 01586 55900.


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Postby general jack o'niell » Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:15 am

duelly noted johnny oh and the tie? lose a bet did you?
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Postby Jock Strap » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:13 pm

Beachcomber wrote:
elainemck wrote:If there is a dog warden/fines for dog fouling - come up Knockscalbert Way (Spam Valley ;)) as I'm continually having to pick up dog mess from in front of my house due to inconsiderate dog owners. It's just not nice!

Trouble is, it's not a revenue-generating activity so the councils don't put much priority on it.

I dread to think how many square miles our local warden is expected to cover.


That's right just blame the Council for everything...

Why don't the owners just take care of their dogs :?: :?: :?
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Postby jdcarra » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:47 pm

Beachcomber wrote:
Trouble is, it's not a revenue-generating activity so the councils don't put much priority on it.



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I can't quote on the councils priority, but our local wardens priorities are high to catch the perpetrator's. Also not only the Council pushing this forward, but Community Councils, Crime Prevention Panel and other groups within the country.Write up in the Argyllshire Advertiser this week hammering home that it will not be tollerated. To date seven people have been issued with penalty fines.
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Postby Beachcomber » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:43 pm

I didn't mean to be critical just that there is only so much money in the pot and so many projects drawing from it, and those that generate revenue are clearly going to be better placed to demand a bigger share.

Jock Strap wrote:Why don't the owners just take care of their dogs :?: :?: :?

Couldn't agree more.
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Postby EileenH » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:43 pm

Can I just say- not all dog owners are guilty of leaving their dog's mess. Only the minority. It annoys me as well even though I own a dog. There's no excuse. Just don't tar us all with the same brush!! It's true, I know where and when my dog is going to mess and I'm ready to clean it up. Everyone should do the same.
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Postby elainemck » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:05 pm

I know not all dog owners are guilty of this disgusting habit - I love dogs, I just don't want their mess in front of my house!

I know it is just a few who are in the minority and unfortunately have let their dog mess in front of my house for the 3rd time this week without picking it up! :( [/quote]
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