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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:38 am

Seems this is always how it starts, and I would bet by the same people "who have been reading this for years", and happened to know everyone else who doesn't come here because they don't like the "drivel." Always amazes me.
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Postby smokynuk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:41 am

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:54 posts..
Smokynuk, have you read the cuba thread? Or any of the threads on communism, religion, the ferry (the issue has gotten a little heated in the past, as i think it would at a town meeting hall... just seems to bring out strong opinions in people) There are quite a few differences of opinion. Personally, i would rather be around people who weren't afraid to have real conversations with real points of view, sometimes polar opposites. Makes it more interesting.

Cant say i have read those threads. But i agree certain subjects result in strong opinions from people, but thats not whats happening here.

You say youd prefer to be around people who werent afraid to have real conversations, well believe it or not, i can (and have on other forums) got into very heated discussions without resorting to insults. The point i was making here is that if there is a differing opinion on here certain members seem to gang up and insult - oops sorry i mean partake in "friendly banter" and proceed to silence the person who have a differing opinion, not with valid arguments, but with "put downs"

To me thats not "having a real conversation" not an adult discussion anyway.

But to reiterate, I have nothing against debating different sides of a topic, in fact i enjoy it. But when it comes ti resorting to insulting people as an argument, im sorry but thats when it stops being a discussion.

Also if you have seen my past posts, I will also point out i have not "insulted" anyone more than they have done to other people, yet they take offence to my comments?? Well things look different from the other side of the fence doesnt it??
Yet when they take part in such behavior its classed as "friendly banter" then when valid points are made on a subject (such as this one) the whole things is made a joke of through sarcasm.

I really cant understand why some people see theres nothing wrong with this behaviour. To me all this is as clear as daylight and like i said, ive been to other forums so i know of proper "codes of conduct" which actually encourage good discussion and not insults or off topic ramblings.
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Postby Sweltered » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:42 am

smokynuk wrote:
Sweltered wrote:you really don't have a sense of humour do you. Why do you feel the need to insult me? Seems I'm not allowed to post anything on here.

I WAS just making an observation, and felt the need to explain that I was NOT having a go at you, but your obvious expertise on forums has gotten the better of me.

You can ban me if you like Malky,

but Smokynuk, you can frick off.

See its not so nice when the shoe is on the other foot is it? can dish it out but cant take it? classic signs of a bully.

I havent insulted you anymore than you have insulted others in the past. So to any moderator on here thinking of banning me you should look at the past actions of said individuals first.


Please quote the passage where I "dished it" out to you.
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:43 am

general jack o'niell wrote:hello bobbie, you calm don, at your age you canna be too careful


Very funny general!

MALKY! DO HIM IN! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby smokynuk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:48 am

To General Jack

Why are you so obsessed with people knowing who you are, or knowing people on here??
Im sorry but when i was posting in other forums i didnt see a need to ask everyone whom i came in contact with their personal details.
To me who you are or who i am is irrelevant, but im guessing you wouldnt agree with that since your Morris Shaw, im sorry but who cares. Cetainly not me, I dont know who you are, i dont want to and if its my loss then im more than happy to live with that terrible terrible loss.

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I aint even entertaining you anymore little boy, go back to playing with your toys.
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:49 am

Smokynuk,

If you really came for good conversation, why not go to the Cuba thread. Would be interested to hear what your point of view is there. This is nonproductive.
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:50 am

What happened to the other forums?
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Postby smokynuk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:50 am

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:Smokynuk,

If you really came for good conversation, why not go to the Cuba thread. Would be interested to hear what your point of view is there. This is nonproductive.
Again, I will say to you as I have said to Bill and anyone else who suggests anything to me, why dont you suggest the same to Jack? or even Sweltered?
Is it cos i is black?
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:51 am

no, because you're obnoxious :lol: :lol:

Anyway, this is stupid and you are here to stir.. I'm done on this thread.
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Postby spangles » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:52 am

general jack o'niell wrote:there was even a thread that was stopped because it discussed who he might be, he was annoying so many at the time, this was stopped by me when it was pointedd out that since he coulds not see the thread he had no right of reply, perfectly reasonable i thought so it was stopped.


My God, I was on Stargate and didn't know. I'm famous!!!!!!!! Did anybody record it???

For our Embra freens Stargate is a hidden site that the General and his friends were rewarded with all to themselves. Personally I think he is more entertaining on here. Hand him a bigger shovel.

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Postby smokynuk » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:58 am

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:no, because you're obnoxious :lol: :lol:

Anyway, this is stupid and you are here to stir.. I'm done on this thread.
Of course, they never stirred did they?

Just because i am a relatively new poster acting the same way they do (but directed at them) i am labled a stirrer and obnoxious. Like i said before and i'll say it again, I havent been anymore offensive than they have been in the past to people.
Well that just proves my point anyway. If youve had a thousand or more posts to get everyone used to you "obnoxiousness" then its all a-okay.

The thing that really got me tonight was the insult on a first time poster, then you get people defending the insulter, then when I make a comment, they tell me im picking on people! Its insane.
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:58 am

no offence but neither him nor a thousand like him, it takes kindness to win me over

onto the topic in hand, i might be wrong, wouldn't be the first time but the first time i became aware of the aforementioned member above was thru reading one of his posts and where he was having a pop at another member, it wasn't malicious but neither was it pertinant to the topic, don't ask me to quote where it was, i can't remember, all i can remember thinking was who is this? is this one of those multiple screen name characters who frequent the forum and only pop up to start a rammy then disappear a few weeks later, always apparently citing that they don't like the mudslinging and have numerous friends who feel likewise. thats what my first impression was, i'm still waiting to be proved wrong.

as for going off topic, if you want to stay rigidly on topic for every thread then go elsewhere, please i implore you, we are not worthy of your patronage, we can't stay on the same subject for more than three weeks, slightly better than the attention span of did you see the rangers game on setanta, no, me neither, the wife wanted to watch relocation relocation, i only saw last ten minutes, errr , and another thing to repeat my point in a conversation the topic changes with the passage of time, its not a debating society, tho i expect the ones who look down on us for our feeble attempts at keeping on track were on the school debating team, and have ribbons to show for it.

can someone pm me and remind me what my point is? i'm watching primary colours till the sopranos comes on
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Postby Sweltered » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:15 am

smokynuk wrote:To General Jack

Why are you so obsessed with people knowing who you are, or knowing people on here??
Im sorry but when i was posting in other forums i didnt see a need to ask everyone whom i came in contact with their personal details.
To me who you are or who i am is irrelevant, but im guessing you wouldnt agree with that since your Morris Shaw, im sorry but who cares. Cetainly not me, I dont know who you are, i dont want to and if its my loss then im more than happy to live with that terrible terrible loss.

To Sweltered

I aint even entertaining you anymore little boy, go back to playing with your toys.


You are the most hypocritical person I have ever come across. You go on and on and on about "regulars" who are rude and driving people away, and here you are insulting me for absolutely no reason. Going on about me defending my brother, when I clearly wasn't. I have never been rude to you, but you immediatly behave in exactly they way you claim I do.

I made assurances to DavieP and Malky that I would tone down my posts. I have done so. I have not had any adverse comments from moderators for any of my posts since the ban was lifted. So you can keep your patronizing tone to yourself.

Entertaining you, I don't believe you could be entertained, you obviously haven't had much of a life moderating all those forums. I bet you aren't even smug, coz being smug might bring on a sense of enjoyment.

Are you jealous that my toys are better than yours..

Oh and I'm Allan Shaw

Who are you?
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:17 am

sorry to disappoint you, i'm not obsessed with people knowing who i am, its a local forum, most know who i am, i said you might not know, and if you did you might still not know or even care, i didn't ask you to care about who i am, just thought it might give you some insight into how some treat us, because they know us, and therefor know our character, what makes us tick, thats all, bit funny that you don't know who i am yet seem informed enough to know that sweltered is my brother? maybe your a good guesser, got a lottery ticket yet?

as for defending the person that insulted a first time poster, all i'll say is my thoughts on that were conveyed privately to the person in question, besides i thought they knew each other hence the tone of familiarity in the post, i don't make a note of every post so i was not aware it was this persons first post either. but then years of smoking has addled my brain, so i wasn't familiar with any of the anti smoking lobby on that thread.

a further point in the knowing identities thing, if someone knows you, your name, its a small town, everyone knows everyone, then they have you at a disadvantage, such that i for one am more careful as to what i say and how i direct my comments to the unknowns, i know plenty of people who are members but have no idea what their screen identities are, they have me at a disadvantage, they can make remarks to me that i could take the wrong way, supposing thyem to be coming from a stranger, often its someone i know but know not if you get my drift just trying to wind me up, theres a few like that, jock the boat for one, knows me well enough to know things only a few would know but i have no idea who he is and he uses this to his advantage.

can i just reaffirm that i do not, have never and will never deliberately piclk on another, certainly not a stranger or new member, this doesn't seem to register with some on here tonight, nothing i can do about that, won't lose any sleep over it either, i don't post for the satisfaction of others, nor do i seek their approval, i know when its good, i know when its p!sh, i also know when i've chosen which it will be and written accordingly, has the sopranos started yet?
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:20 am

he doesn't care who you are or me, doesn't even know you or me but somehow knew we were brothers, you hold him down and i'll give him his character, in words of one syllabub, sillyseason, syphallis, sycophant, short words
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