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Postby Mr.Everready » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:44 am

Are these places there just for badge holders to park and watch the world go by ?

Surely they were added to help these people park when there was no other spaces in Main St.
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:09 pm

they are there for badge holders to park in, what they do once parked is no concern of anyones. disabled parking is not for parking when theres no other spot, they are for disabled parking. when, where and for how long, shouldn't be questioned. Ever thought the badge holder might be unable to get out of the car? might have difficulty walking and would rather wait while the person accompanying them ran an errand?
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Postby Mr.Everready » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:58 pm

My point is that at certain times both parking bays are being used by people just to sit in their car. ( Not to wait for someone to come back to them. )

If both bays are occupied by these people, where are the other badge holders to park ? The people who can't walk far and see these spaces as a necessity not a luxury.
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Postby Gus » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:09 pm

Does the 1 hour parking restriction still apply to these spaces or is it waived because its a disabled space???
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:30 pm

take it up with them or make your post clearer, or both
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Postby Mr.Everready » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:47 pm

Clearer than what ?

Is it right that badge holders who have no intention of leaving their car use these spaces thus depriving others of the oppertunity.

It's a simple question really. I know they have the right to park there and do what they want while there.
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Postby The modfather » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:12 pm

As far as im concerned, if i am sitting in a disabled space and there is space behind me. if another call pulled up behind me, i would move to give it space
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Postby general jack o'niell » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:13 pm

then what was the point of your original post then? whats the difference between leaving the car parked there for several hours as you might do in a city centre or just sitting in your car, as these people are doing in the main st? you can't say either get out the car and leave it parked, or move and let someone else leave their car parked there instead. the spaces are for badge holders to park in, simple as that, and yes if i see the people you refer to sitting as you say watching the world go by, the next time i'm looking for a space in main st, i'll have a moan and then park elsewhere, they were there first. can't exactly stop and ask if they are going to be long? can i? and yes, i do have a blue badge, tho seldom use it, but i have parked there once.
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Postby spangles » Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:45 pm

The modfather wrote:As far as im concerned, if i am sitting in a disabled space and there is space behind me. if another call pulled up behind me, i would move to give it space


If a driver with disabled parking privileges wanted to park in that area but there were no spaces because of "watch the world go byer's" how could they make their intentions clear that they wanted to park?

If they lurk waiting for someone to move on then they would be commiting an offence because they would either be sitting on the crossing or holding up the traffic at the crossing...and where do the pedestrians go then when the lights are telling them it is safe to cross but in reality the area is crowded with parked "world go byers", disabled drivers waiting to get in and drivers just wanting to get through the crossing before the lights change?

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Postby gizmo » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:27 pm

gen jack wrote:Ever thought the badge holder might be unable to get out of the car? might have difficulty walking and would rather wait while the person accompanying them ran an errand?


Surely the point of the disabled parking spaces is for ease of access to and from the vehicle for the disabled rather than for the convenience of their mates, if that were the case and the disabled person wasnt getting out of the car they were depriving someone else of a scarce space...
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Postby spangles » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:49 pm

gizmo wrote:Surely the point of the disabled parking spaces is for ease of access to and from the vehicle for the disabled rather than for the convenience of their mates, if that were the case and the disabled person wasnt getting out of the car they were depriving someone else of a scarce space...


....Gizmo is it possible that the badge holder says to his neighbour "C'mon I'll take you to the bookies and you can hop in the door 'cause I've got a blue badge and I can park ootside"?

Mmm interesting point that an able bodied person could be using the badge holder's car and driver as a taxi with privelaged parking rights.

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Postby general jack o'niell » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:44 am

in case your not aware of the facts, the badge holder does not need to be the driver of the vehicle, the badge is appointed to the person, not the vehicle, as long as the badge holder is in the vehicle then they are entitled to make use of the privilages which the badge entitles them to. the fact the disabled bays in the main st are adjacent to a bookmakers is neither here nor there. i don't think the person or persons which were mentioned in the opening post would take kindly to the insinuation that they were using their badge purely for the purpose of allowing a neighbour to place a bet. in short, unless you are a badge holder its none of your bloody business how long anyone parks in one of those bays. perhaps its the fact that the bays are there in the first place that sticks in the craw of the poster. from what i've seen of the main st on a daily basis, every available parking space is taken up by work vans full of men who are no doubt charging some poor bugger for their time, sitting stuffing their faces with rolls from one of the food outlets.

i don't object to them sitting watching the world go by, why then should anyone object to anyone else doing likewise just because they are entitled to a blue badge? how about the poster asking one of the vans full of workmen to move as they've been sitting there for more than half an hour? not going to happen, why? because they are entitled to park for the prerequisite period of time allowed. were the disabled bays sited at a favourite spot of some local firm perhaps? they all seem to park in the same place each day, the main st looks like some kind of social club between 10 and 11 am most morning. maybe they disturb the campbeltown tradition of having to park outside every shop you visit, even if it means moving the car 50yds.
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Postby Mr.Everready » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:26 am

GJ, you seem to be assuming that I have a grievence against these parking bays. Infact it's the contrary.
The point of the post is that at certain times they are not being used as they were intended.
You even said yourself :

yes if i see the people you refer to sitting as you say watching the world go by, the next time i'm looking for a space in main st, i'll have a moan and then park elsewhere,


What if you couldn't walk as far as you can ? Maybe 100m at a time, would you park elsewhere then ? No you wouldn't because you would be too far away from the shops that you wanted to visit.
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Postby spangles » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:50 am

Just adding to Mr E's post and adding my own thoughts, Okay?

The remark regarding the bookies was facetious and should be taken as such....but back to the topic.

general jack o'niell wrote:in case your not aware of the facts, the badge holder does not need to be the driver of the vehicle

Yes I do know that!!

general jack o'niell wrote:every available parking space is taken up by work vans full of men who are no doubt charging some poor bugger for their time, sitting stuffing their faces with rolls from one of the food outlets.

As you will see most of them are from the building trade. Bloody cold on a winters morning up roofs with snotters tripping you just to earn a living. I hope they enjoy their break wherever they decide to sit and eat it.

One poster asked if the disabled parking spaces are liable to the same time limit as other road users. Yes/No

I couldn't care less where anybody parks even in Tesco car park apart from disabled of course.

As my old farming uncle used to say "my balls are sore from sitting on this fence but they'll be sorer still from a kicking no matter what side of the fence I fall"

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Postby general jack o'niell » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:13 pm

thanks for telling me something i didn't ask you, i feel much better knowing how well informed and uninterested you are, thank you for going out of your way to put your disinterest aside and furnish the topic with several posts, your self sacrifice knows no bounds.

i'm also delighted to know a member of your family has/had balls, i'll leave it at that.

Mr.E why start the thread in the first place? if you haven't any particular axe to grind, why mention the some people who watch the world go by? you made it sound personal, if that was never your intention, then i must have read your post wrong. i'll go back and reread every book and article i've ever read as i may have read all of them incorrectly also.

as for the works vans? they are entitled to park where they will, just not while billing me for it, just like any other vehicle with the exception of blue badge holders who are entitled to make use of the disabled bays, for as long as they require. or do you suggestt the traffic warden gets the badge holder to walk up to the white hart and back, if they are able to do this, then they would be required to move their vehicle after a required period. far better complain about cars using the bays without displaying a badge, i saw one such vehicle this morning do just that, the driver appeared to be elderly so i turned a blind eye as i believe that the over 65's should automatically be given badge entitlements.
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