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Freedom!!

Postby Malky » Thu May 01, 2008 3:57 pm

Of a sort now that I don't have to moderate. It will actually be a bit of a relief not having to be diplomatic as well :wink:

One thing I've noticed since my user login is now the same as everyone else's is that the board looks quiet :shock: Maybe it's just because it's midweek but I realise that when you can't see the hidden private groups, the number of posts/topics is a lot less. For instance, as we're in the run-up (pardon the pun) to the MOKRUN, their group is really busy with the final preparations so there's lots of activity in there. Not so in the regular forums.

I sat down with my cup of tea there and logged in and there was only half a dozen new posts since my last visit. I know 2 or 3 days ago when I could see all the forums, that figure would have been much higher.

So why is the board quiet? Why don't people post more? Or at all? These are all questions that have been asked before of course but having been admin for a while I heard one big reason why people didn't post more. Funny thing is, that reason has been removed and yet there hasn't really been an increase in people posting. Wonder why?

Better get back to work.

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Re: Freedom!!

Postby jdcarra » Thu May 01, 2008 5:45 pm

Malky wrote:So why is the board quiet? Why don't people post more? Or at all? These are all questions that have been asked before of course but having been admin for a while I heard one big reason why people didn't post more. Funny thing is, that reason has been removed and yet there hasn't really been an increase in people posting. Wonder why?

Better get back to work.

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Re: Freedom!!

Postby bill » Thu May 01, 2008 6:49 pm

Malky wrote:Funny thing is, that reason has been removed and yet there hasn't really been an increase in people posting. Wonder why?

Better get back to work.

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What reason was that Malky ?

I know I for one miss the quiet waters(as someone also stated in a previous post).

Seeing how as you have started this thread Malky I will do my best to give you an honest answer.

First though I will repeat an old saying often used by my Mum,"You do'nt miss the water till the well runs dry".In this case "Quiet waters".

There is no humour in the forum since the departure of Gen.Jack,I used to come on here and have a good laugh at his posts and the replies from a variety of members.Then strangers to the forum arrived with the intention of causing trouble.
A selection of members "the regulars" as they were called ,were accused of hi-jacking the forum and driving away other members who were too timid to post.These strangers caused division within the forum and carried forth their mission to banish "the regulars".Now that their mission has been successful, these strangers have gone on their way,and what you are left with is a forum that is a shadow of it's former self.

Of late I log on to see if there is any news from the town which might interest Catherine or myself.This is the first time I have bothered to write a reply in a thread,I have started and then thought"why bother"? and deleted what I had writen.

I am heartened though to find that you realize the forum is quiet,I just wonder though what reason you might attrbute to the decline?
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Ship called Dignity » Thu May 01, 2008 8:28 pm

Ach, I was going to reply but....
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Govangirl » Thu May 01, 2008 10:41 pm

bill wrote:
Malky wrote:Funny thing is, that reason has been removed and yet there hasn't really been an increase in people posting. Wonder why?

Better get back to work.

Malky



There is no humour in the forum since the departure of Gen.Jack,I used to come on here and have a good laugh at his posts and the replies from a variety of members.Then strangers to the forum arrived with the intention of causing trouble.
A selection of members "the regulars" as they were called ,were accused of hi-jacking the forum and driving away other members who were too timid to post.These strangers caused division within the forum and carried forth their mission to banish "the regulars".Now that their mission has been successful, these strangers have gone on their way,and what you are left with is a forum that is a shadow of it's former self.



Bill. Can I as a newcomer come in here? I watched this forum for months and have to say that Gen. Jack made me laugh out loud. There were others too, yourself included, who were real characters and made me join up, mainly because I wanted to argue with Ionnsaigh (and then, worryingly, found myself agreeing with SOME of what he was posting and laughing at his poetry). I have no idea of the rest of your posting, I cannot make head nor tail of it. All I can say is that I couldn't wait to return to Kintyre and have been looking into hotels, etc. recently and this was merely a response to posting on this forum. But I do feel that it has changed somewhat recently and although I don't understand the background to which you refer, I just wonder if you feel that 'strangers', i.e. those who don't come from Kintyre, should be members? Just really want to know as I don't know who these 'strangers' refer to? :roll:
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby gizmo » Thu May 01, 2008 10:48 pm

An unfortunate choice of words but it wasnt aimed at people from outwith the area.. I believe Bill meant a couple of posters who seemed to deliberately agravate Gen Jack (or Quiet Waters his other name on another forum).. By the way never admit to agreeing with Ionnsaigh it encourages him..
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Govangirl » Thu May 01, 2008 11:16 pm

gizmo wrote:An unfortunate choice of words but it wasnt aimed at people from outwith the area.. I believe Bill meant a couple of posters who seemed to deliberately agravate Gen Jack (or Quiet Waters his other name on another forum).. By the way never admit to agreeing with Ionnsaigh it encourages him..


I doubt very much he needs encouraging, Gizmo...... but what you say clears the muddy waters a little. Thanks for that - I can't help being nosy when there's something I don't know. :D
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Malky » Thu May 01, 2008 11:23 pm

You were good enough to post an honest answer Bill so I will too.

Your post sounds like sour grapes to me. You had your little clique of "regulars" that used the forum like you owned it and when that was taken away you have gone in the huff. You go on about "strangers" to the forum intent on causing division but perhaps they were just people who came on to post what a lot of forum readers were thinking. In the end it was me who banned Gen Jack. Perhaps something I should have done a lot sooner. And FYI some of the "strangers" were banned or deleted too.

There was humour in some of Gen Jack's posts but you had to dig deep at times. Personally I found little humour in the forum. To the extent that I rarely used it as a forum. To me it was a chore. Probably because I had to sort out problems. I'm glad that is behind me now :|

As for the forum being quiet, I never really believed that there would be a big surge of people posting on the forum after Gen Jack was gone. Lots of people like to complain about the forum locally, they like to have an excuse why they don't like the forum, why they don't post. They want someone to blame. Well that reason has gone now and where are they I wonder? Maybe they're just taking their time and will be along soon..

But that's not to say that the forum is in decline. The various private groups are busier than ever and the last time I looked at the stats they were much the same as before Gen Jack went. But the stats show visitors, not posters.

I should have started this post in Speakers Corner.

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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Thu May 01, 2008 11:40 pm

Malky - I believe that some of the quietness may also be down to the change of scene (i.e. upgrade to PHPBB3). I'm sure there are some who are just a wee bit unsure about what to post, and how to adapt to the new environment. Periods of change are always strange things.

This is not meant to be derogatory in any way, but if you take away the sheer volume of posts that certain individuals or 'their cronies' were were making, then of course the number of posts is going to reduce. These are unlikely to be replaced overnight, or even within the first month or so. To get someone to a becoming a regular contributor takes a long time.

The facts are that two of the highest volume posters on the Forum have been 'lost' - likewise other high volume posters like Bill and Bobbie seem to have followed them into an almost 'self-imposed' exile, or at least self-imposed 'quietness'. I'm sure they have their own reasons for this? Personally, I don't think the forum is any less 'valuable' or applicable than it was 6 months ago, it is however slightly less 'cliquey', and as a consequence slightly less busy.

However maybe some of those who didn't post used certain people as an excuse for not posting, and just weren't into posting anyway?

The graveyard is full of 'indespensible' people - in my view the Forum will be here, in one form or another, long after we're all gone. I've always likened the forum to a Pub therefore it'll have it's ups and downs, quiet periods and busy periods - we are all merely passers-by in it's long an distinguished existence. I'm sure one day that you'll be telling your kids about all the old 'characters' on the Forum, away back in the beginning!

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PS. Started writing this before I read Malky's response!
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby History » Thu May 01, 2008 11:43 pm

Malky, I notice that's 2 old films in 2 days. Is that you just getting caught up with them now that you have all this freedom :D A member of this household watches an Officer and a Gentleman at least 5 times a year :roll: .

It's almost old enough to be on the History thread. IMHO of course!!
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Govangirl » Thu May 01, 2008 11:55 pm

Sheik Yir Erse wrote:The graveyard is full of 'indespensible' people - in my view the Forum will be here, in one form or another, long after we're all gone. I've always likened the forum to a Pub therefore it'll have it's ups and downs, quiet periods and busy periods - we are all merely passers-by in it's long an distinguished existence.


Wow!!!!!! That's pure poetry, man!!!!! I've been marking GCSE English Coursework for 3 hours tonight and I've just officially given that an A*!!!!!! :lol:
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Malky » Thu May 01, 2008 11:58 pm

Sheik Yir Erse wrote:I've always likened the forum to a Pub therefore it'll have it's ups and downs, quiet periods and busy periods

Aye, I remember :D
Sheik Yir Erse wrote:PS. Started writing this before I read Malky's response!

Didn't change your reply though. :lol:

@ History. Actually one DVD on Saturday and one on Wednesday. The one on Saturday while the new forum software was rebuilding the search facility and the one Wednesday coz my wife wanted to watch it and I hadn't seen it since my first viewing of it in a cinema in Woodstock, Ontario.

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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Fri May 02, 2008 12:12 am

Govangirl wrote:Wow!!!!!! That's pure poetry, man!!!!! I've been marking GCSE English Coursework for 3 hours tonight and I've just officially given that an A*!!!!!! :lol:


Thanks Govangirl - I wish you had been my teacher :D

PS. I was paraphrasing Charles De Gaulle, I think it was him who made the graveyard statement? - I should have put it in quotes :oops: Marks off for plagiarism :roll:
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Fri May 02, 2008 6:01 am

Where is the little call button to complain about a thread?

If this isn't inflammatory, I don't know what is... and on a reread, you might find the answer to your own question Malky. By the way, you could easily replace the word "clique" with "the friendlies" because if anyone wanted to be included, they were included, and thats how it should be, don't you think?

Edit: I found it, lets see if it works.
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Re: Freedom!!

Postby 4th gen Suthen' » Fri May 02, 2008 6:30 am

without making any comment on who's right and who's wrong and which of the differing opinions expressed by my good friends on this forum, and in real life I agree with,....and I think I agree, partly at least, with them ALL............. I suspect that might be the end of Bill as a poster as well......... :(

C'mon Bill, prove me wrong.........get back to your old, valued, posting style :D now is when the forum needs your input.
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