Offensive To Muslims

[Govangirl]

[I don't think it is offensive or racist to suggest if peope move to another country they RESPECT the rules and laws of that country.

Exactly! It's offensive to ASSUME that they've moved to this country when their families have lived here, and contributed much, for generations!

And no, I don't think I'm going off the point - it was directly relevant as he said they 'come into our country and should get the f*** out'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fact is, I agreed with the original post in its entirity and could recognise your twin brother's frustration. I just thought that the particular language was offensive and uncomfortable.

[Jock Strap]

I didn't assume, my point was in respect of people moving to a country and wanting to change it. Not in reference to people who have been here for hundreds of years. It's a hard point to make so not going there in the fear of sounding racist.

[jock the boat]

[I don't think it is offensive or racist to suggest if peope move to another country they RESPECT the rules and laws of that country.

Exactly! It's offensive to ASSUME that they've moved to this country when their families have lived here, and contributed much, for generations!

And no, I don't think I'm going off the point - it was directly relevant as he said they 'come into our country and should get the f*** out'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fact is, I agreed with the original post in its entirity and could recognise your twin brother's frustration. I just thought that the particular language was offensive and uncomfortable.

For an English teacher youre not too hot at the old reading, then again those that cant do teach eh?

[The modfather]

All aboard the offended bus

[Govangirl]

Personal abuse is always the harbour for people like you Jock. I cannot engage on that level. All the best and cheerio.

[EMDEE]

It is unfortunate that a perfectly acceptable topic for discussion descends into a personal slanging match and is spoiled by the individual who started the thread, firstly by the use of inflammatory language and statements, and secondly by personal insults towards anyone who has a slightly different opinion. I don’t think the statement “Abandon hope all ye who enter here!” means that those who do enter are given carte blanche to hurl unfettered abuse at others.

This is the way to lose any sympathy for the point you are trying to make.

[hugh]

Isn't it obvious that the original newspaper article was solely intended to elicit the sort of response that some have
given it on this thread? One local councillor expresses the concern of a handful of people and suddenly the newspapers are off and running with their "muslim outrage" and "mad mullah" headlines. If we take this stuff seriously aren't we more likely to give more ammuniton to the individual extremists who probably exist within, (and are probably resented by), any religious/cultural/racial society?

I'm no great admirer of religious beliefs, or dogs for that matter, but I think we do ourselves an injustice when we react
in this way. One good thing to come out of this thread; that fantastic image of someone traipsing around Iran carrying
a big cross and brandishing a christmas tree at the locals. That was a tooter, that was.

[ionnsaigh]

Ali - see that eejit, way thon big cross an Christmas tree
Mohamed - send him ooer tae thon Shi mosque - it being Friday.

[A Horse called Juan Face]

I dont think Jocks a racist, hes just an arsehole. Im not afraid to stoop to personal insults.

[jock the boat]

For an English teacher youre not too hot at the old reading, then again those that cant do teach eh?

Whooops, it appears it was me that wasnt too great at the reading. I apologise, but I did think the assumption that it wouldnt be scottish muslims is correct. I dont think the sentiment is racist either, because it applies to everyone. I know lots of people who say the toons shite, well they know where the A83 is dont they? I get a bit defensive sometimes, and Im not biting at the stupid horse either.

[A Horse called Juan Face]

On a similar note I saw this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... eport.html

That's just mental. Surely it's a joke.

[dr-sanchez]

the sanch says that 2nd article is a load of pish

[EMDEE]

What about this one then?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 276489.ece

[ionnsaigh]

A raid conducted by the serious crime and drug squads - raided the Church Of Scotland Campbeltown - Anti Terrorism Officers sealed off a large part of the town - Chief inspector Ms Henrietta Handcuffs " The vast majority of protestant people are law abiding - however a small group of protestant loyalist terrorists exist". Make no mistake - we will root them out of the religious schools in the Kintyre area. Funny how things look from a slightly altered perspective.

[hugh]

a slightly altered perspective.

Absolutely. Except it's not just slightly altered, it's distorted beyond any reference to reality. The Press in this country have long since given up any pretence at investigative journalism, and are now in the business of trying to outdo their rivals by dint of pandering to their readership's sense of outrage. I swear if the Beano had a decent crossword I'd never buy another newspaper. The only sensible view in these articles was expressed by Ibrahim Mogra, but nobody will pay any attention to it. And the really worrying thing here is that the police, security forces, diversity officers, whatever,...seem to be more intent on dealing with the media image than they are with reality.

Outraged, of Tunbridge Wells.