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Re: Knife Crime

Postby FlyingDragon » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:17 am

EMDEE wrote:
FlyingDragon wrote: Some believe that the tales of King Arthur origin comes from Campbeltown, I am one of them.


I thought this vaguely rang a bell with me.

http://www.celtic-twilight.com/camelot/ ... bicoir.htm



I,ve been working on a book of fiction that has the story of Arthur being from Campbeltown area. Thank you so much for this information! Here is some more interesting information. " The following translation of a Bardic poem, descriptive of one of their religious rites, identifies the superstition of the British Druids with the aboriginal Ophiolatreia, as expressed in the mysteries of Isis of Egypt. The poem is entitled "the Elegy of Uther Pendragon;" that is, of Uther, "The Dragon's Head;" and it is not a little remarkable that the word "Draig" in the British language signifies, at the same time, a fiery serpent, a dragon, and the Supreme God."

"In the second part of this poem is the following sacrificial rites of Uther Pendragon":----

"With solemn festivity round the two lakes;

With the lake next my side;

With my side moving round the sanctuary;

While the sanctuary is earnestly invoking

The Gliding King, before whom the Fair One

Retreats upon the veil that covers the huge stones;

Whilst the Dragon moves round over

The places which contain vessels

Of drink offering;

Whilst the drink offering is in the Golden Horns;

Whilst the golden horns are in the hand;

Whilst the knife is upon the chief victim,

Sincerely I implore thee, O victorious Bell, etc., etc.,"





http://www.sacred-texts.com/etc/oph/oph09.htm
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby FlyingDragon » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:30 am

Forgot to add another site concerning Campbeltown being the possible site of the true King Arthur!

"Adomnan's "Life Of Columba"

The earliest reliable evidence of the existence of Arthur (Arturius) is found in a 7th century AD manuscript, known as the 'Vita Columba', written on the remote island of Iona on the west coast of Scotland by a monk called Adomnan.

Today the oldest surviving copy, a photograph of which is shown below, can be found in the archives of the town library of Schauffhausen, Switzerland. This document was copied from the original and taken to mainland Europe in the early 8th century, centuries before Geoffrey of Monmouth linked Arthur with Cornwall and England.

The manuscript clearly states Arthur (Arturius) was the son of king Aidan and tells of Arthur's last battle against the Picts (Maithi). There can be no doubt that Arturius was the inspiration for the legendary Arthur since the two figures are identical.

The 'Vita Columba' was written in the 7th century and is older than any other account of Arthur to be found in England or Wales. It is at least a century earlier than the famous Welsh 'Nennius' manuscript, which mentions Arthur, but fails to say who he was.




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Re: Knife Crime

Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:28 am

I dont understand knife crime, havent these people heard of guns?

Joke (and it was a joke) shamelessly stolen from somewhere else, I think it might've been Lost actually, and to anyone who thought it was poor taste, go and complain to Mary Whitehouse, I'll be too busy watching The Dark Knight to care.

Seriously though, I found myself agreeing with Ionnsaigh. Hmmmm
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby Ship called Dignity » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:29 am

I took the wee fella to the play park outside Tescos last week. There was a group of kids there, knew them all, not well, but knew them. One of them had a stanley knife in his hand. I asked "What is that? Is it real?", "No" was the reply. I asked to see it and found it was indeed real. Asked them if they realised the damage that could be done with this and they just shrugged their shoulders and then blamed each other on whose knife it was and where they found it. To be honest I didn't make a big thing about it, just took the knife from them and said I would dispose of it myself. I suppose I thought back to my days as a kid and I had a knife, a pen knife then when I went on holiday to Muasdale (!) a Swiss Amry one. 8)

In retrospect I realise I only ever had that when I was up the hill and it seemed to be part and parcel of the experience of growing up and am more shocked now to think about kids having this at a play area. Can only hope they listen to what I said, but then again I doubt it....
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby EMDEE » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:37 am

Ship called Dignity wrote:In retrospect I realise I only ever had that when I was up the hill and it seemed to be part and parcel of the experience of growing up ....


A penknife was a standard accessory, but I never heard of them being used as weapons.

I just wonder what the position would be with a sgian dubh, which is an essential part of the Highland dress? :?
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby A Horse called Juan Face » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:14 pm

That storys mental. Stanley could take off a finger easy.
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:20 pm

I thought that the sgian dubh was replaced by plastic replica. Perhaps a worrying sign of the times - plastic Scots?.
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby EMDEE » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:56 am

You can get plastic replicas, but the real thing is still available. It's quite a useful tool, and can be used in a situation where you need a knife. I use it regularly for addressing the haggis, preferably accompanied by a suitable measure of Laphroaig. :D
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Re: Knife Crime

Postby Govangirl » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:08 am

A Horse called Juan Face wrote:Seriously though, I found myself agreeing with Ionnsaigh. Hmmmm


Yeah, don't you just hate it when that happens? :lol:

I just wait until his next post and that does it!!!!! :)
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