labour rebels - what are you doing?

[Tom B]

I'm no fan of Gordon Brown, but I can't see that calling for a leadership challenge is in the interests of either Labour MPs, the country or anyone else? Better to sit it out (I'm sure Gordon is generally well intentioned - and what new directions are any new short-term labour leaders going to take in any case, apart from a change of personality), let the inevitable Conservative victory (?) happen at the next election - then elect a new labour leader.......

[ionnsaigh]

I would hazard a guess, that the current economic downturn - will be a contributing factor in a Conservative victory in England, and a Scottish Nationalist one here.
Surely ,and judging by the SNP record in government, this would be a more prudent choice for the Scots - than English conservative rule from Westminster.

[EMDEE]

Gordon Brown has been a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Apart from this, there appears to be a hostilitity south of the border to to him being Scottish. Again I would say that people forget that Tony Blair was also Scottish, (and also had Irish connections) although he came across as an archetypal Englishman. He was not a successor to John Smith, who was probably the best prime minister we never had, but he is what we got by default through the premature demise of John Smith. How much different would things have been if we had Gordon Brown first rather than Tony (and Cherie) The most high profile consort any British Prime Minister has had.

[EMDEE]

Is Gordon Brown beginning to regain credibility by his handling of the worldwide financial crisis? I listened to a discussion on the BBC tonight where the general consensus was that this was the case. The opinion seemed to be that David Cameron does not have the experience to be able to do what Gordon Brown is currently doing in the US. I would tend to agree with this.

[ionnsaigh]

EMDEE, I would agree that Brown is better fitted Cameron.
However both represent pro market economies. Both are engaged in a power struggle, both appear to offer some degree of sanctuary - to those most vulnerable to the highs and lows of capitalism. They both unquestionably accept an economic system - that creates wealth. They both recognize the system positively rewards in abundance - the small minority.

Once every five years, the system is given some creditability, by holding a General Election. This election lends undue credit to the lie of democratic freedom. The choice between two things - that are in essence identical, to my mind offers little in the way of choice. " What would you like sir, Vindaloo or Madras ? ". This appears the way the choice is represented, during elections. Left or right of any given thing , is a secondary consideration - akin to the quantitative difference between, hot or cold. The menu may offer sweets as afters, however that choice comes after starters and main dishes.
Communists who stand for election, are generally speaking the veg in the carvery. Only serving credit to the lie.
food for thought.