Angel of the South

[blueboyno1]

The one in Cathedral Square is definately King William of Orange

[hugh]

Last time I was in Glasgow I had a few bottles of Newckie Brown in a pub called "Time Square" (I think?). Not far from this pub (it was actually in St. Enoch Square, I believe?) was a statue with the inscription you quoted, Ionns. Never saw it myself, but somebody in the pub kept prattling on about it. Viva yer man, is that the one?

I'd a' gone out to check it out myself, but a wandering hen party dropped by and Newckie Brown's not the only thing that goes down well so I missed it.

[ionnsaigh]

Now now gentlemen please, King who ? viva who? Cathedral Square one of my favourite spots, however lets wait for Mr EMDEE.
Hen party indeed.

[EMDEE]

Back to Glasgow's many landmarks, I remember putting my hands round the cold bust of ( I don't know who she is ) atop of the City Chambers in Glasgow.

A hope ye wirna stealin the leed off the roof!

I' don't know anything about the statue with the inscription you quoted, but did a Google search for the inscription and it only came up with a Pakistani website relating to the death of a rebel leader.

[blueboyno1]

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We have another statue with the inscription " Better to die on your feet than live on your knees forever "
What and where? This latter one has particular meaning to myself - both where it is situated - and it's meaning.

Would that be the spannish civil war 1936-39

[blueboyno1]

Or more correctly the International Brigade .It's down by Jamaica bridge.

[ionnsaigh]

Bitter End, King Billy - dressed as a Roman Emperor, but what was the name of the horse with the swivel tail?
hugh, I'm surprised at you, lassies an drink before - La Pasionaria at Custom House quay.
blueboyno1, takes all ten points.

A hope ye wirna stealin the leed off the roof!

Funny you should say that, I said something similar that day in 1989.

Glasgow has it's very own, bridge of sighs - a great place for weans to hear an echo - any ideas?

[blueboyno1]

Glasgow has it's very own, bridge of sighs - a great place for weans to hear an echo - any ideas?

I think that may be the bridge at the necropols .I seem to remember it being called that when i was a boy .I was born in Townhead and played all around that area .

[ionnsaigh]

Only someone born in toonheid wid noo that. I played there, when I was growing up in Townhead.

[blueboyno1]

Only someone born in toonheid wid noo that. I played there, when I was growing up in Townhead.

It must have been you i heard sighing then ionnsaigh.

[EMDEE]

The one in Cathedral Square is definately King William of Orange

According to some sources the tail of the horse has a ball and socket to enable it to move about in the wind. Why do all equestrian statues not have this then?

I prefer the Wikipedia explanation that the tail has been placed in a ball and socket connection “to prevent it being broken by unruly persons in times of riot”

King Billy?
Unruly persons?
Times of riot?

Naw! This is Glasgow!

How perceptive of James Macrae when he paid for and had this statue erected in 1735, that it might cause offence in some quarters.

[blueboyno1]

The one in Cathedral Square is definately King William of Orange

According to some sources the tail of the horse has a ball and socket to enable it to move about in the wind. Why do all equestrian statues not have this then?

I prefer the Wikipedia explanation that the tail has been placed in a ball and socket connection “to prevent it being broken by unruly persons in times of riot”

King Billy?
Unruly persons?
Times of riot?

Naw! This is Glasgow!

How perceptive of James Macrae when he paid for and had this statue erected in 1735, that it might cause offence in some quarters.

I think it was there as a feature not because of wind or riots .I suppose the same could be said of plenty statues all over the place .

I remember as a boy there was a garland of orange lillies placed around the kneck of King William most years on the night before the orange walk ,dont remember any riots

[A Horse called Juan Face]

Fairly certain Emiliano Zapata said that quote, but possibly not originally.

[ionnsaigh]

I couldn't say with any degree of certainty wither it was Zapata or not. The statue is La Pasionaria it commemorates those of the International Brigades who fell - fighting fascism in Spain, during the Spanish civil war of ( 1936-39 ). It pays tribute to the 65 Glasgow volunteers who died. It depicts Dolores Ibarruri a Spanish politician, who later became founder of the Communist Party Spain. Apparently she wrote for a number of papers, using the pen name La Pasionaria ( Passion Flower). She was known for her brilliant oratory skills, ( they shall not pass ). She lived in exile in Moscow, until after the death of Franco, on her return she was elected to parliament there, at the age of 81 - she died in 1989.
Here is a few wee extracts from one of her famous speeches.

La Pasionaria's speech in Barcelona, 1st November 1938
For the first time in the history of the peoples' struggles, there was the spectacle, breath­taking in its grandeur, of the formation of International Brigades to help save a threatened country's freedom and independence - the freedom and independence of our Spanish land.

Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Republicans - men of different colors, differing ideology, antagonistic religions --- yet all profoundly loving liberty and justice, they came and offered themselves to us unconditionally.
They gave us everything --- their youth or their maturity; their science or their experience; their blood and their lives; their hopes and aspirations --- and they asked us for nothing. But yes, it must be said, they did want a post in battle, they aspired to the honor of dying for us.

Banners of Spain! Salute these many heroes! Be lowered to honor so many martyrs!

Mothers! Women! When the years pass by and the wounds of war are stanched; when the memory of the sad and bloody days dissipates in a present of liberty, of peace and of well­being; when the rancors have died out and pride in a free country is felt equally by all Spaniards, speak to your children. Tell them of these men of the International Brigades.

Ah belang tae Glesga - dear auld Glesga toon.

[blueboyno1]

Fairly certain Emiliano Zapata said that quote, but possibly not originally.

Close but no cigar .The original quote was by the Cuban revolutionary Jose Marti and picked up by both Zapata and Dolores Ibarruri .