Jade Goody

[Sheik Yir Erse]

My feelings are that if she really is dying then a real mother would want to spend as much time as possible with her kids not on endless media appearances.

How do you align that comment with the fact that Jane Tomlinson chose to spend countless hours away from her children training for her Iron Man triathlon, marathons, events, etc. Or is that different?

Anyway, very few people have done what Jane Tomlinson did to raise money, therefore equating Jade to a one-off doesn't really seem that fair? There are also a group of people who believe that Jane Tomlinson's efforts were detrimental to 'the cause' as people were starting to say, well look at her - she'd out doing Iron Man's and marathons, so if she can do it why can't you? How ill actually are you? But that's an entirely different discussion altogether.

[Tosh]

My feelings are that if she really is dying then a real mother would want to spend as much time as possible with her kids not on endless media appearances.

How do you align that comment with the fact that Jane Tomlinson chose to spend countless hours away from her children training for her Iron Man triathlon, marathons, events, etc. Or is that different?

Well Jane did have her children with her at most of the things she did but yes it's very different, Goody is claiming all the media work she has been doing was for her children's benefit while my personal opinion is that if she wanted to benefit her children more she could have spent that time with them.It's not like she wasn't already a very wealthy woman who's kids would already have been set up for life!

Anyway, very few people have done what Jane Tomlinson did to raise money, therefore equating Jade to a one-off doesn't really seem that fair?

Likewise there are very few people who have done what Goody has done, basically they both raised money that they wouldn't have raised if they hadn't had the cancer publicity, the difference is what they have done with the proceeds.

There are also a group of people who believe that Jane Tomlinson's efforts were detrimental to 'the cause' as people were starting to say, well look at her - she'd out doing Iron Man's and marathons, so if she can do it why can't you? How ill actually are you? But that's an entirely different discussion altogether.

As you said another discussion altogether but an interesting one.

[Sheik Yir Erse]

Well Jane did have her children with her at most of the things she did .....

Appreciate they would have been at the events, but that's slightly different. My daughter once spent 4 hours watching me run a marathon, but she most definitely was NOT there during the 200+ hours of training I'd done to get to that point. And Iron Man - well that's a different level of training entirely. But I digress again .......

PS. It's probably worthwhile pointing out, that I'm not a particularly huge fan of the Instant, Z-list Celebrity Culture either! So I'll start a thread in Speakers Corner related to that, it appears we all have something to say on that topic, and it'll steer clear of this one.

[dr-sanchez]

haven't read most of this thread but just wanted to say i saw jade goody posing on the front page of the star during the week.....i mean come on, who does that?!!?! the woman's an idiot.

[Govangirl]

When did someone say she deserved this?

They didn't .......

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My point exactly but it's too late now, the witches have already been burnt at the stake!

[A Horse called Juan Face]

When did someone say she deserved this?

Tosh's one word Karma implied exactly that. Karma for calling someone names would be losing your car keys down a storm drain or going out one night to a premiere and someone else is wearing the same dress (oh how you girls hate that one), not dying. I have no problem with what Tickety Boo stated, but that karma comment was well out of order.

[Govangirl]

Actually, I don't think the concept of karma has anything to do with women wearing the same dress but . . .
I read Tosh's remark as being to do with the whole 'celebrity watching' thing and because she had lived all her adult life by the sword of the camera glare, she was now dying by it. Maybe I'm wrong or just couldn't believe someone would say that her impending death was karma. I can't speak for Tosh, only he can do that.
I don't think anyone can look at the photos of this young woman and not feel heartbroken for her but I also feel sad that actually, she should be at home, wrapped up with her wee boys and her Mum, instead of taking part in this increasingly monstrous charade.

[Tosh]

Actually, I don't think the concept of karma has anything to do with women wearing the same dress but . . .
I read Tosh's remark as being to do with the whole 'celebrity watching' thing and because she had lived all her adult life by the sword of the camera glare, she was now dying by it. Maybe I'm wrong or just couldn't believe someone would say that her impending death was karma. I can't speak for Tosh, only he can do that.

About as well put as it could possibly be GG, I did mention that my post had been misconstrued earlier but this is one of the downfalls of any written communication as intonation and expression are lost.

I don't think anyone can look at the photos of this young woman and not feel heartbroken for her but I also feel sad that actually, she should be at home, wrapped up with her wee boys and her Mum, instead of taking part in this increasingly monstrous charade.

And we're just as guilty for continuing to talk about her

I hear she now has some Christenings for sale!

[gizmo]

I agree I am getting a bit bored with this as well. How would you define karma, I always thought it meant something along the lines of you get what you deserve.

[A Horse called Juan Face]

I agree I am getting a bit bored with this as well. How would you define karma, I always thought it meant something along the lines of you get what you deserve.

That's exactly what it means, so you wouldn't use the word unless you thought she was getting what she deserved. I don't care if you're getting bored by this. F off and stop reading and posting then.

[Govangirl]

Tosh, I'd give up if I were you. I am. Let's just go for a pint.

[gizmo]

That's exactly what it means, so you wouldn't use the word unless you thought she was getting what she deserved. I don't care if you're getting bored by this. F off and stop reading and posting then.[/quote]
Take some water in it.

[Tosh]

Tosh, I'd give up if I were you. I am. Let's just go for a pint.

Sounds like a plan, I'll see you at the bar

[Ags]

Tosh - if you're going to make posts which consist of one word i.e. "Karma", then I would suggest you are actively encouraging people to draw their own conclusions. Perhaps if you explain your reasoning/beliefs behind your post, this would have prevented anything being misconstrued?

I'm with you on that one sheik! I didn't read your comment like Govangirl did Tosh.....I misconstrued it like a lot of other people obviously did!!

[Pans Lass]

[quote="Tosh
And we're just as guilty for continuing to talk about her

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Ironic really ! Jade obviously has had some kind of impact on all of us posting on this thread whether postive or negative.