Praying man let his daughter die

[History]

I actually don't see why religion should have a problem with the Theory of Evolution.

Have you seen the film "Inherit the Wind" It's a very good courtroom drama based on a true story about a Bible thumping town against a teacher who dared to introduce his pupils to Darwin's book on the Theory Of Evolution?. The Prosecutor a religios Zealot who takes the book of Genesis completely at it's word and an agnostic defender.

I think at the time it was known as the "Monkey Trial" in Tennessee?

Shows up how dangerous extreme religious beliefs can be in the minds of people like the subject of this thread.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

I didn't realize she died in 2003 and this is now coming to trial! We have a right to a speedy trial here, but apparently we also have a right to tie up the system as long as possible.

[ionnsaigh]

Which theory? Seems that some evolutionists have problems with other evolutionists' theories. I doubt seriously that if there is a maker of science, that he is confused.

Well it would be a he now wouldn't it. Women are second class citizens when it comes to the bible, remember Eve the temptress. Both you and the girl, are made from a male cast off rib. God has no female equivalent up there in Boy's club Heaven. Of course even the Devil has a Willie, so either way - women are on a loser, either up or down - it's male town.

Of course the good book was written by man , as men made God they contradicted their own actions by claiming , God made Man. History shows from our earliest beginnings, a voluminous litany of God worship, and many many Gods. These Gods have shrunk from thousands to very few, logic dictates that this trend will continue, after each faltering step in our quest for fact and subsequent knowledge.
For in the true sense, the vehicle used for all religious practice is prayer. This demands blind faith, and is completely at odds with the acquisition of knowledge - through scientific fact. I like to see both Superstition beliefs, and Scientific facts as two great opposing camps, the more the knowledge gained - the less credibility superstition enjoys.
The tides coming in boy's - we will be up to our necks in water soon - didn't you check the table? no I was praying that God would hold back the tide - came the reply. Well that's alright then - I've heard that before.

[Bobbie En Tejas]

Oh good grief...

he/she/it/they/blankspacetoaddwhicheverthirdpersonyoudbesatisfiedwithsoyoucangetthepointandnotbesoeasilydistrac
tedbytheomissionorinclusionofanS.

whatever...

[hugh]

I'm beginning to think that atheism's the latest cult religion. They're just as convinced as every other branch of religion that they know what happens after you die. And, just like other religions, they're not happy just keeping this baseless guesswork (and, unless they've actually been dead, it is baseless guesswork) to themselves. Oh, no....they somehow feel the need to try and convince everybody else that theirs is the true way. Every freakin' chance they get, some of them.
I think it's only a matter of time before they start knocking on people's doors and preaching the gospel according to Richard Dawkins. Nobody knows for sure, so it's a free choice. I'm a buddhist. The materialistic subsect, that is. After all, you only live once.

[ionnsaigh]

you only live once.

Yes however, what like was it for you in 1930 ? . No one born after this date can say - now can they. I assume that the second after I die, would be in many respects be the same as 1930.
before------Born---------life---------Die-------after
The bit before your born, I would hazard a guess - is similar to the bit, after you die.
Zeeeeeeeeeen Let it wash over you like a stream.
Time we blasted off to exploit Mars - Captain Comrade hugh.

[hugh]

Well, you see...the paradox there, glasshopper (that's a zen /scottish thing) is you weren't dead before you were born, were you? All the the organic material that forms your body was already in existence before you were born. And it'll still exist after you die. The only thing that changes is consciousness. And if matter can be neither created nor destroyed, but only altered, (as Einstein said), then maybe the same laws apply to consciousness? Maybe death's just an abrupt change of consciousness? Maybe that's just a load of old hooley, but ain't it better to think about things and keep an open mind rather than just accept cut and dried answers handed to you on a plate by people who don't know any better than you do? That's why I'm an agnostic materialistic buddhist rastafarian presbyterian.

P.S. I can't go to Mars tonight, I'm on 6-2 in the morning.

[Bitter End]

As Dave Allan used to say "may your god go with you " The phrase covers all sects ,cults --should cause no offense and offers respect and should help keep the peace !

[Govangirl]

Hugh, that was a brilliant answer!

As Dave Allan used to say "may your god go with you " The phrase covers all sects ,cults --should cause no offense and offers respect and should help keep the peace !

Bitter End, the peace-keeper of the forum. Now, if he was a cult leader, I'd choose to follow him and offer him all my deep devotion, emotional investment and money. I'm away to build a wee shrine to him now.

[ionnsaigh]

is you weren't dead before you were born, were you?

Exactly, and by the same said measure, you weren't alive before you were born either, were you ? The before bit, up till this point - is our only real bearing . I would be quite happy to conclude - that the after point, would be identical. Logic dictates.
God you missed a great trip last night.

[Sweltered]

Pastafarianism

All hail the flying spaghetti monster (may he touch you with his noodly appendage)


Raaamen

[Govangirl]

This one?

[ionnsaigh]

Is this the chap who was praying to God ? although I'm not sure what one ( God that is ).

[Anon]

Personally i think its nothing to do with religion

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[Bobbie En Tejas]

Absolutely agreed with your original post, anon. Half of the meaning was changed in the editing, but it was sweet, short and to the point.