16% increase in Alcohol related hospital discharges inArgyll

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16% increase in Alcohol related hospital discharges inArgyll

Postby Kintyre Forum News » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:37 am

I was going to try and regurgitate this story I read on the excellent For Argyll website but thought why cheat and edit an excellent and informative article. :mrgreen:

I've often thought the availability of cheap drink in supermarkes as opposed to the highly inflated prices in public houses is pushing alcohol abuse out of the controlled environment (public houses, police etc) and resulting in more domestic trouble. Does anyone have any thoughts on the change in culture in particular over the last 10 years and any comment about the new licencing laws?

Does anyone have more information on the proposed minimum pricing proposed by the Scottish Government?

The following aticle has been copied from the For Argyll website

http://forargyll.com/2010/03/alcohol-re ... n-5-years/

According to statistics just released by NHS Scotland, the level of discharges from hospital in Argyll, linked to the use and misuse of alcohol, are up by 16% over the past 5 years. The overall average for Scotland was a rise of 9% in the same period.

This paints a picture for serious concern in Argyll and constituency MSP,Jim Mather, says: ‘This is yet another statistic that demonstrates that the misuse and abuse of alcohol is causing very serious problems in our society.
‘I am deeply concerned to see that the statistics of Argyll & Bute. While they are not the worst in Scotland, they are significantly above the national average and that, in itself is a matter for serious concern.
‘Indeed, I believe that we must react to this by redoubling our efforts to boost the local economy to help more people into work and able to make better lifestyle choices.
‘That would be further assisted by the Scottish Government’s proposals for Unit Minimum pricing for alcohol.
‘This policy continues to gain significant support from Medical Officers of Health and Police Chiefs across Scotland’.

Moreover – and tellingly, as Mr Mather points out: ‘the Labour led Health Committee at Westminster recently joined the ranks of those supporting the principle.’

There is, of course, no suggestion that the minimum pricing per unit strategy on its own will resolve the problem – but it is a key instrument in approaching this genuinely serious social and health malaise.

The Scottish Government has led the way in this policy within the UK and it has the heavyweight support of health professionals at all levels and of the police. The battle is against the culture of cheap alcohol and binge drinking and the battle is for the lives of Scotland’s – and Argyll’s – young people.

Mr Mather says: ‘The attitude of the opposition parties to Minimum Pricing is extremely disappointing as they appear to have no alternative proposals to combat the problem of anti-social drinking and the misery it causes’.

Some indigestible facts are:
• 3,000 Scots die each year from alcohol related illness
• Alcohol is almost 70% cheaper in real terms than in 1980
• The number of alcohol related discharges from Scottish Hospitals has increased by 9% in the last five years; in Argyll & Bute by 16%.
• Scottish Government plans for Minimum Pricing will target cheap, high strength alcohol – and so will not affect responsible and moderate drinkers, nor will it impact upon the Scotch malt whisky industry.

That the rise in the health impacts of drinking in Argyll are almost twice the Scottish average is an eye opener for everyone. It underlines just how serious is the situation we are facing today. Unless we do something, tomorrow will be another story – and a tragic one.
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Re: 16% increase in Alcohol related hospital discharges inArgyll

Postby Malky » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:27 pm

Kintyre Forum News wrote:I've often thought the availability of cheap drink in supermarkes as opposed to the highly inflated prices in public houses is pushing alcohol abuse out of the controlled environment (public houses, police etc) and resulting in more domestic trouble.

That's my thought too. I think the large disparity between supermarket prices and pub prices is what makes so many down a few drinks at home before going out. Actually not just a few, sometimes a lot - and loads of people are going out drunk now - they're drunk before they start drinking in the pubs and clubs. Perhaps a minimum price per unit is needed to stop this or at least get it under some form of control.
Kintyre Forum News wrote:Alcohol is almost 70% cheaper in real terms than in 1980

Given that fact, I'm not sure many of us can complain about the cost of alcohol. Of course I'm sure pub and club prices will not be so cheap in real terms - I wonder how their prices compare in real terms?
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Re: 16% increase in Alcohol related hospital discharges inArgyll

Postby gizmo » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:55 pm

I am always slighty concerned when I see comments like "in real terms". How do they get these figures, what comparisons etc?

Kintyre Forum News wrote:I've often thought the availability of cheap drink in supermarkes as opposed to the highly inflated prices in public houses is pushing alcohol abuse out of the controlled environment (public houses, police etc) and resulting in more domestic trouble. Does anyone have any thoughts on the change in culture in particular over the last 10 years and any comment about the new licencing laws?


I dont remember the public houses and the police being that effective in combatting alcohol abuse back in the day. I have noticed for years the standard answer for just about everything is to price it out of reach of the hoi polloi, where does this extra cash go to? I am not saying there is not a problem, I just dont think it is a new problem and certainly not the fault of Tesco.
When did "binge drinking"become the new evil. What exactly is binge drinking? Is it not what people have been doing since time began? Now that we have a buzz name for it, everyone seems to think it is a new phenomenon.
Trying to find out why one man ends up as an alcoholic or have drink problems while his mate drinks sociably or not at all might be a good start. I think that is the case with most of the problem areas, drinking, drug abuse and gambling. Pricing things out of reach has never worked and never will, the junky will always get his fix.

PS. I am virtually tee total. Last got drunk the day Gasgoinne scored in the 2-0 game, and that wasnt my fault. If McAlister hadnt missed that penalty... :evil:
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Re: 16% increase in Alcohol related hospital discharges inArgyll

Postby Kintyre Forum News » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:08 pm

gizmo wrote:
Kintyre Forum News wrote:I've often thought the availability of cheap drink in supermarkes as opposed to the highly inflated prices in public houses is pushing alcohol abuse out of the controlled environment (public houses, police etc) and resulting in more domestic trouble. Does anyone have any thoughts on the change in culture in particular over the last 10 years and any comment about the new licencing laws?


I dont remember the public houses and the police being that effective in combatting alcohol abuse back in the day. I have noticed for years the standard answer for just about everything is to price it out of reach of the hoi polloi, where does this extra cash go to? I am not saying there is not a problem, I just dont think it is a new problem and certainly not the fault of Tesco.


Sorry not always meaning years ago, as my experience is only in the last twenty years. Still maintain Public Houses at least go someway to controlling how much alcohol is consumed. Behind closed doors you only have yourself to control it.
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