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Postby Ship called Dignity » Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:56 pm

aquiline wrote:The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship.

Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion.


You ionnsaigh in disguise :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Wee Toon Ajax » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:02 am

aquiline wrote:Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion.


What a load of nonsense the above quote is - you made comments which were distateful to say the least on more than one occasion and because quite a few people point this out you come out with this convoluted tripe. Why not just admit that you were in the wrong with what you wrote, it is quite easy.

So according to your quote, the minority of people who vote for racist trash like the BNP are in fact telling the truth and the rest of us, who are in the majority and would never think of voting for them as we see them for what they are, are gangs and have no opinion at all. Bollox - your statement is an over generalisation if I have heard one. There are times when maybe the majority are correct and times when they are maybe wrong ie voting for clowns like thatcher, blair and the like.

The problem with the minority is that they act like spoiled brats when they do not get their own way and try to make out that they are more intelligent than everyone else and that they are correct when things actually go wrong, they seem to take some sort of perverse glee in it.

As I said, there are many occasions when the majority are right and many occasions when they are wrong too, certainly not what you wrote.
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Postby ionnsaigh » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:24 am

aquiline wrote:The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship.

Truth always rests with the minority, and the minority is always stronger than the majority, because the minority is generally formed by those who really have an opinion, while the strength of a majority is illusory, formed by the gangs who have no opinion.


Perhaps some benefit can be derived from the censorship, that deprived myself from reading your previous post.
In as much that I bear no judgement.

I couldn't agree more, with the first part of the above quote. However truth appears a fickle creature, as always appears - a sweeping statement. Nevertheless the mediocre mob have much to answer for, so much the pity that they have been denied the education and moral fibre to muster an opinion.
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Postby general jack o'niell » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:29 am

apparently it matters not what i would say on this matter, all i asked was why several posts were removed, you say you didn't have time to read them all the way thru at the time you removed them, i accept that, but since it was the original post that was brought to your attention could you not have just removed it?

you say the method you used was the best at the time and that a PM to you would have better served the purpose, i accept that and with hindsight i should have used that approach rather than voicing my disgust directly on the forum. that said i would have bben more likely to PM the perpetrator than the administration, but then this last week has been particularly sensitive for some of the admin, judging by the tone of a few posts, the wrong end of a particular stick aimed in my direction comes to mind. if it matters that much then i apologise for asking why my post was removed before you had a chance to look at the whole episode.

i just noticed a post that appeared while i was typing this, don't rush to defend aquiline and his post, you never saw it so you can't possibly form an opinion on it, posting sick jokes, no wrong choice of word, joke implies that someone will find it funny, sick statements that are a pathetic attempt at humour are not opinions, posting your revulsion towards the pos and the poster is a legitimate opinion, and just because it is in the majority does not give credence to the minority.

i await your public request for aqualine to "go away"
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Postby Sweltered » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:16 am

My tag line says it all...
OOH did they knock down McCaigs folly.....
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Postby Malky » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:45 pm

Fine, I've run out of patience with you two. I've had enough of your snide remarks. You're both banned.

And now I don't really care what anyone else thinks. Anyone who thinks I'm being harsh or unfair - tough.

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Postby Ninja Mania » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:40 pm

Malky, your being harsh, and even a little unfair, and if you ban me for saying so then thats tough, ive been thrown oot and banned from worse places than this before. :shock:

Power to the posters. :twisted:
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Postby bill » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:10 pm

Agree with the Ninja Man 8)
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Postby Jeanette » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:16 pm

Howzat for a sense of humour :D
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Postby gizmo » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:25 pm

Hopefully this wee storm will soon calm down and everyone will be welcomed back, but trying to look at it from the Mods point of view, getting constantly criticised for every move or perceived slight must be very wearing.. I am sure Swelterred and The General will be back soon enough,(the forum would be a poorer place without them) but there has got to limits to how far we can go.. The language recently has been getting worse and the posts about Malky and The P (although apparently they werent aimed at them) were over the top... But banning that prat Ionnsaigh is fair enough :lol: ... I for one think you do a good job....
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Postby big tony » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:40 pm

how very childish of you malky, to ban two members without contacting them, then tell them they should contact the webmaster or board admin but deny access to do so.

as for the snide remarks, i know for a fact that they are two of the more open and transparent posters who's true identities are known to all, that can't even be said for you, GJO for one would be delighted to debate his ban with you, on the forum, on the phone or even face to face, he has nothing to hide, he hasn't got a website selling sex toys for example like one of his brothers detractors.

its a sad day when one person, contradicts themself after claiming no one was bigger than the forum and bans two high profile members without justification, just because, and i'm assuming this to be your reason? your wee feelings were hurt. grow up, if your the man you claim to be start acting like one, none of this "its my BAA and i'm going home" what do you intend to do when you get there? tell your mammy? send her roon to thon big bad shaw boys hoose in limecraigs? i'm sure he'd love that!!!!

i have it on good authority that all his recent posts have been vetted by his wife, so if she grudgingly approves them, who are you to spit the dummy? or was it your rattle you dropped? because theres a helluva empty vessel noise about your "your both banned" post, i suspect a good deal of jealousy on your part, you only wish you had half the brains, wit, humour and knowledge that morris and allan shaw possess.

thats right, for anyone that doesn't know already, and just in case wee malky forgets to move this to a wee sheep pen for further investigation, thats who general jack o'niell and sweltered are, morris shaw and allan shaw, are you going to ban their other two brothers and their sister too, just for being related, if so have a wee look at dunoons last post, he's been holding this forum up as how a forum should work to the web industry across the world in his position with scottish enterprise, so clever move banning his brothers because you don't like their opinions, they've said it often enough, what they post is accurate and true to the best of their knowledge purely and simply because their names are known and therefor anything they write is directly attributable to them, they don't hide behind screen names and fake identities.

nobody ever said you had to agree with everything anyone said, it would be a sad world if we did, so be a man, give him a real explanation, his number is in the book, under SHAW M.
limecraigs, i for one want to be party to that conversation, who knows, i might well be?
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Postby bill » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:48 pm

See you Big Tony,you an the General would get on like a hoose on fire :lol: :lol:
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Postby big tony » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:08 pm

Malky wrote:Fine, I've run out of patience with you two. I've had enough of your snide remarks. You're both banned.

And now I don't really care what anyone else thinks. Anyone who thinks I'm being harsh or unfair - tough.

Malky


now it's my ball and i'm keeping it, you two go and play on the big pitch and leave us wee yins in peace, or i'll tell ma mammy on ye and she'll be up at your door.

good, i'll send the wife to answer, then you'll be for it, i'd go easy on ye cos your only wee, in every sense of the word.

nearly finished, you won't have too many posts to remove and hide, censorship is alive and well and called kintyreforum, davie and malky are captains, now who gets the first pick?

i'm off into the big world, look up the phrase "laughing stock" you'll need to known the meaning once i've finished, this place will end up the forum worlds answer to the idiot clips on youtube.

yer maw!!!!!!
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:54 pm

See, the problem here is, general, your post was not banned, and more than mine was banned. With aquiline's pathetic attempt at humor removed, the rest was removed with it. There was really nothing that stood on its own if his posts were gone. I'm not sure what you are so up in arms about. Your post was in response to aquiline's, his is gone.. This was never about you.

Malky just came back from a trip, probably still recuperating. Can you all just give each other a break for a few days? Personally, I really hope Malky reconsiders the bans.. and hopefully, general, you can back off a bit on him. The admins already get sh$t from nonposters who couldn't be bothered but want a say in what goes on here, don't give them ammunition.

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Postby bill » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:52 pm

Getting back on thread...........according to one newspaper, an arrest in Britain is imminent.We shall see
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