The way forward for Kintyre?

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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby elainemck » Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:20 pm

OK yes, I agree entirely.

I just mean that all these ideas and suggestions are great but if noone is listening to them or doing anything about it then nothing will ever happen. Community council was only a suggestion so that was is discussed here might get brought forward to Councillors that could actually make a difference.
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby £3.73 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:40 am

I would envisage councillors being integral to the whole process for reasons already stated.
Obviously noone can be forced to participate, or action anything.

However, I dread to think what this place will be like in 10 years time if nothing is done ..
I remember saying that 10 years ago too !!!
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby Pete Reek » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:17 am

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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby elainemck » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:44 pm

£3.73 wrote:However, I dread to think what this place will be like in 10 years time if nothing is done ..
I remember saying that 10 years ago too !!!


I think a lot of people are thinking along the same lines £3.73, but this 'think tank' might be the way forward so in 10 years time we can look back and boast at how far Kintyre has come in 10 years :D

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elainemck wrote:Is there already a community council in the town?

Aye, there is.

Malky


Malky - do you know where and when does the community council meet? Are there published Minutes or anything? I'm sure whoever is in it has similar ideas to some on the forum to put forward. Do our local representatives attend?

Maybe all it needs is someone mentioning at a meeting that this thread is here?

Has the empty call centre been advertised or promoted to any other companies?
Is there a tender out at the moment for the ferry? To Northern Ireland or even Braehead :lol:
Why can't we get the Waverley back during the summer once a week?
Government buy-out of Vestas factory? One step to nationalisation of wind farms.... :wink:

Anyone else got any ideas to take Kintyre forward?
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby EMDEE » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:49 pm

A bit wider than Kintyre, but this article appeared in today's Press and Journal:

Move for Argyll and Bute brand

Its whiskies are internationally renowned, it boasts world famous sailing waters and its myriad of island communities are widely acclaimed for their stunning scenery and wildlife.

But although home to so many places which are famous in their own right, the name Argyll and Bute is rarely associated with the many jewels in the crown.

Now plans are under way to change that and to establish a unique Argyll and Bute brand, and to market the area and the best it has to offer, from food and drink, to tourism, leisure and the arts.

Argyll and Bute Council is leading the move to establish the new brand, and Carys Wynn-Mellor, a member of the local authority team working on the project, said: “Argyll and Bute as an area is not generally recognised as a geographical entity.

Public perception by those outside the area readily identifies the Highlands and Islands, the Western Isles and the Northern Isles of Scotland, but does not perceive Argyll and Bute as part of that area. However, parts of Argyll and Bute are world famous in their own right. Islay is internationally renowned for whisky, Machrihanish for golf, Oban as the Gateway to the Isles, and Mull has recently raised its profile as a result of wide TV coverage of sea eagles”

Work on establishing the brand will take place over the next three years, with Argyll and Bute Community Planning Partnership playing a lead role in identifying key stakeholder groups. The proposed strategy and marketing activities will be in two phases. Phase one will focus on visitors and people the council would like to attract into the area, while phase two will focus on those who already live and work in Argyll and Bute.
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby History » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:16 pm

Elaine, the CCC meet once a month in the Council Chambers. I thought everyone knew that but maybe the CCC need to make it more known. Second Monday of the month I believe. The minutes should be available from the Council ( I think)

There is already a "think tank" in the town in the form of Opportunity Kintyre. An experiment backed by the Scottish Executive has classified 2 places in Scotland as severely deprived and Campbeltown is one of them. The Ernesto Sirolli Institute has set up a programme with a facilitator to oversee it. This person, a Geordie called Lynn has been in place for the past year and it would be unfair of me to comment on her success or failure in the project because I really don't know how it is going but the fact that someone like yourself doesn't know this might be an indicator of lack of community involvement?

I read Mr Sirolli's book "Ripples in the Zambezi" http://www.sirolli.com/data/invitefiles ... olli_4.doc and found it inspiring but not sure how relevant it is here in Kintyre. I would suggest you read it to make sense of his ideas.

The fund raising event is advertised on here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6743 so if you want to pay £25.00 and enjoy the Twisted Melons get on your good frock and go along. You might get to speak to the man himself.

By the way I am sure that the CCC knows of the existence of this thread :wink:

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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby £3.73 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:45 pm

I've taken great heart from this thread and others ..ie. the beach clean.
It's awesome that there are still civic minded people out there, willing to volunteer and give their time for the common good.

And there is a problem in itself. Argyll & Bute should perhaps be doing these things in the 1st place.

I think it's highly optimistic to wait for men in suits at Kilmory or the Scottish Office to solve the areas woes.
Politicians, are in the business of getting elected, not neccessarily solving problems.

In my humble opinion, there is no magic solution. No singular idea that will suffice.
What is required is a well-thought unified, coherent strategy to address the problems facing the area, that can be sensibly implemented and budgeted for over say the next 10 years.

It makes more sense for a solution to come from within, than without.

Perhaps it's time to throw down the gauntlet and put some kind of framework in place for any interested parties .. including the current standing members.

Which part of the area is Ernesto Sirolli from ? Do I know his granny ?
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby History » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:58 pm

£3.73 wrote:It makes more sense for a solution to come from within, than without.


I should have added that the town had to raise £50.000 before they would be considered for the experiment. The target was reached.


£3.73 wrote:I've taken great heart from this thread and others ..ie. the beach clean.


So.......you will be at the next one then :D
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby £3.73 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:25 pm

History wrote:
£3.73 wrote:It makes more sense for a solution to come from within, than without.


I should have added that the town had to raise £50.000 before they would be considered for the experiment. The target was reached.

Wouldn't it be great to have another 10 years of hindsight ?
The word experiment isn't doing as much for me, as say surefire success.


£3.73 wrote:I've taken great heart from this thread and others ..ie. the beach clean.


So.......you will be at the next one then :D


Possibly, the burgers looked delicious ;)
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby History » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 pm

I could have maybe used the word "Opportunity" instead of experiment. That was my word not Ernesto's :oops:

The burgers and beer went down a treat so I'm sure you can manage to the next one...............watch this space 8)
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby £3.73 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:42 pm

:idea: I'll give Ernesto's opportunity a read ...

...it better no be a pyramid scheme !!! :lol:

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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby History » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:50 pm

£3.73 wrote::idea: I'll give Ernesto's material a read ...

...it better no be a pyramid scheme !!! :lol:

:twisted:


I can't remember who I borrowed my copy from but there are a few about the town. Hope you will give a review on here when you are finished. Must say I enjoyed it especially the Australian outback town pulled out of the doldrums.
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby Malky » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:51 pm

History wrote:The minutes should be available from the Council ( I think)

The minutes used to be published on the forum here but unfortunately the CCC member who kindly submitted them stopped after receiving criticism and abuse from some forum members.

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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:18 am

History wrote:... An experiment backed by the Scottish Executive has classified 2 places in Scotland as severely deprived and Campbeltown is one of them....


History wrote:... I should have added that the town had to raise £50.000 before they would be considered for the experiment. The target was reached.


Campbeltown paid $100,000 dollars to be part of an experiment to find out why they are severely deprived??

I'm thinking I may have an answer...
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Re: The way forward for Kintyre?

Postby History » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:31 am

Bobbie En Tejas wrote:I'm thinking I may have an answer...


What was the question?
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